[SystemSafety] FWD: NY Times on App Developers for cars

[Chuck_Petras at selinc.com]

Patrick observed that 
> From what I've been hearing, the auto makers are becoming very sensitive
> to the issue of the quality of software in vehicles... due to
> the costs involved in a recall to take care of a software update.

I think the new car I've ordered will include WiFi, so it can update 
itself from my home wireless network at night.

But in any event, the automakers are being offered other options as well. 
Such as "BlackBerry Demonstrates New Mobile Computing Service for 
Automakers : New ?Over-the-air? service delivers wireless software update 
and management capabilities to automakers" <
http://press.blackberry.com/press/2013/blackberry-demonstrates-new-mobile-computing-service-for-automak.html
>

And of course, General Motors has their OnStar (cell phone based) service 
built into all new vehicles.  Of course the real driver for vehicle 
connectivity would seem to be <
http://www.edn.com/design/automotive/4416763/Reduce-warranty-costs-with-Cloud-based-analytics
>

It should be interesting as it plays out.  We all know how well automatic 
updates have worked out for our personal computers...


Chuck Petras, PE**
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http://www.selinc.com

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systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de wrote on 07/02/2013 09:37:47 
AM:

> From: Steve Tockey <Steve.Tockey at construx.com>
> To: Patrick Graydon <patrick.graydon at gmail.com>, 
> "systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de" <systemsafety at techfak.uni-
> bielefeld.de>, 
> Date: 07/02/2013 09:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] FWD: NY Times on App Developers for cars
> Sent by: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> 
> 
> Patrick,
> >From what I've been hearing, the auto makers are becoming very 
sensitive
> to the issue of the quality of software in vehicles. Not so much because
> of what could happen in a single software defect-induced crash, but due 
to
> the costs involved in a recall to take care of a software update.
> 
> How much they are aware of and pay attention to the fact that there are
> better ways to do things remains to be seen...
> 
> 
> -- steve
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Graydon <patrick.graydon at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, July 1, 2013 9:32 PM
> To: "systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de"
> <systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
> Subject: [SystemSafety] FWD: NY Times on App Developers for cars
> 
> While people on this list have been discussing who should write critical
> software, the New York Times is telling its readers who will be building
> the next generation of vehicle software:
> 
> 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/technology/detroit-embracing-new-auto-tec

> 
hnologies-seeks-app-builders.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&adxnnl=1&hpw&adxnnlx=13
> 72738255-4RXY927aACXFF/QS9iSfAQ
> 
> Even when these ?apps¹ are not intended to provide safety-related
> services, they are running on computers that are networked to the
> vehicle¹s control computers and sometimes even have a cellular data
> connection.  (The security community has already pointed out some of the
> resulting dangers [1].)  Moreover, they are designed to control hardware 
­
> displays and loudspeakers ­ that could distract the driver.  While it 
does
> discuss the ?cool¹ factor and space for ping-pong in the development 
labs,
> the NYT does not comment on how GM ensures that this software does not
> impose undue risk on motorists or how it ensures that its new 
programmers
> are up to the job.  Details, details.
> 
> ? Patrick
> 
> [1]  Stephen Checkoway, Damon Mccoy, Brian Kantor, Danny Anderson, Hovav
> Shacham, Stefan Savage, Karl Koscher, Alexei Czeskis, Franziska Roesner,
> and Tadayoshi Kohno. Comprehensive experimental analyses of automotive
> attack surfaces. In Proceedings of the 20th USENIX Security Sym- posium,
> August 2011. Available from: http://www.autosec.org/pubs/
> cars-usenixsec2011.pdf.
> 
> 
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