[SystemSafety] Automobile regulations

Mike Ellims michael.ellims at tesco.net
Wed Oct 30 00:18:57 CET 2013


jean-louis Boulanger Wrote:

> Actually the automotive domain don't want to discuss of certification or
external assessment.

 

Actually this isn't correct.

For vehicles type certified under UNECE R13-H which covers light vehicles
some external assessment is required for brake systems, including ABS and
ESP.

For example in the UK VOSA for be the certifying authority and in Germany
one of the TUV organizations.

Technical documentation supplied would more or less have to conform to ISO
26262, the structure of which is pulled more or less straight from one of
the regulations annexes. That is, 26262 is structured to meet the
regulation.

 

The same applies to a couple of other vehicle subsystems but currently I
believe not engine control units.

As I understand it (last time I looked) the intent was to break out the
annex (which exists in at least two regulations) as a separate regulation
for all complex control systems.

 

In America the situation is different in that manufactures self certify, for
brake systems essentially to the same set of requirements (hence the H in
13-H for harmonized).

 

Cheers.

 

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[mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of
jean-louis Boulanger
Sent: 29 October 2013 22:44
To: Shreve, Erik
Cc: systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Automobile regulations

 

Hello,

Actually the automotive domain don't want to discuss of certification or
external assessment.

for some softwares such motor control and/or ABS in europe it exist some
regulations link to the particle emission but they are no external
assessment 

 

...

 

2013/10/29 Shreve, Erik <EShreve at sjm.com>

Vehicles are outside my professional domain. However, given recent news, I'm
curious if any work is being done on regulating software that provides
essential performance in automobiles.

 

Expert testimony at a recent trial provided quite a list of issues with the
ECU firmware in an unattended acceleration case.

http://www.edn.com/design/automotive/4423428/Toyota-s-killer-firmware--Bad-d
esign-and-its-consequences

 

Developers claiming autonomous cars are already safer.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/520746/data-shows-googles-robot-cars-ar
e-smoother-safer-drivers-than-you-or-i/

 

 

 

Erik Shreve

Principal Software Engineer

Product Development - Software 

CSDP

 

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Implantable Electronic Systems

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Plano, TX 75024 USA

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