[SystemSafety] The VW Saga

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From: systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of Robert Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 4:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] The VW Saga

If self-regulation in an industry fails, then maybe emission controls regulation should be more overt, with federal/state regulators trained in chemistry,
physics and software engineering, sitting in on the emission controls design process of motor vehical development at each motor vehicle corporation.

On Oct 13, 2015, at 4:41 AM, Matthew Squair <mattsquair at gmail.com<mailto:mattsquair at gmail.com>> wrote:

Not to mention that's work, which requires funding from someone's budget. So unless they're running a complete slush fund there'll be some level of financial line item accountability somewhere.

Unless VW has a black bag budget of course. :)

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On 13 Oct 2015, at 7:15 PM, Martyn Thomas <martyn at 72f.org<mailto:martyn at 72f.org>> wrote:
I'd like to see what the software configuration management system records about the reasons for the "defeat device".  No software change gets implemented without explanation and approval.

Regards

Martyn

On 12 Oct 2015, at 20:47, Chuck_Petras at selinc.com<mailto:Chuck_Petras at selinc.com> wrote:
In opening I will say that I am the owner of a '12 VW Jetta TDI.

To me the issue isn't the NOx emission levels. Its the fact that VW had (has) a corporate culture that would condone this sort of thing. What other systems have been compromised? Is there an Easter egg in the stability control system? Airbags? This really is the issue.

Regulators Investigating 2nd VW Computer Program on Emissions
<http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/business/international/vw-diesel-emissions-scandal-congressional-hearing.html>

​VW sets January for diesel emissions recall
<http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vw-sets-january-for-diesel-emissions-recall/>
"Mueller said 'according to current information, a few developers interfered in the engine management.' He said he doesn't think the management board made the decision to use the manipulated software."

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Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories, Inc
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