[SystemSafety] Is risk engineering an art?

[SPRIGGS, John J]

You are thinking of Art as the product of imagination and creative skill, but Art originally meant something more like “skill as a result of learning or practice”.  We certainly apply the latter, and I hope produce the former…

John

From: systemsafety [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of Matthew Squair
Sent: 14 August 2017 11:37
To: Drew Rae
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Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Is risk engineering an art?

Perhaps ‘art’ covers the element of any human discipline that is subjective and (value) judgement based?

As 'risk engineering’, is hardly immune to such factors you could, with some justification, say that it too contains an element of art.

Regards,



On 14 Aug 2017, at 1:07 pm, Drew Rae <d.rae at griffith.edu.au<mailto:d.rae at griffith.edu.au>> wrote:

One way of summarising historical theories of war is that a national approach can be:
 - Scientific (War is government by understanding and applying principles of cause and effect leading to desired outcomes)
 - Managerial (War is about organising large groups of people and material efficiently and effectively)
 - Art (War has some cause-and-effect principles governing the basic techniques, but they get put together in unique patterns every time)

Maybe the same could be said of risk engineering?

(Then you have the question of whether these are actually different approaches, or just different ways of looking at what is fundamentally the same approach).

Regards,
Drew
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On 14 Aug. 2017, at 12:35 pm, paul_e.bennett at topmail.co.uk<mailto:paul_e.bennett at topmail.co.uk> wrote:

On 14/08/2017 at 1:32 AM, "Daniel Grivicic" <grivsta at gmail.com<mailto:grivsta at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello everyone,

In some current readings I have seen the term 'art' being used when
discussing the application of safety ideas.

Is risk engineering an art or is it fair to consider it an art in
particular circumstances? What would these circumstances be?

Any input is appreciated.

Hi Daniel,

 I see the application of technology to require a balance of art and science.
Every engineer should be able to tell a story (an everyday occurrence
hopefully), Writing stories is seen as an art-form. Drawings can be as much
art as technical design. Developing a safe system needs the generation of
a multitude of pictures and the right story being told.

As a STEM Ambassador, I feel we are really missing something if we do not
include the Art aspect (it really should be STEAM or TEAMS).

Regards

Paul E. Bennett IEng MIET
Systems Engineer

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