[SystemSafety] Apple being sued for illegal use of Facetime

[Smith, Brian E. (ARC-TH)]

Perhaps IT-enabled cars are becoming so complex and non-generic that the “type certification” process required for airline pilots should be applied to drivers WRT their highly-automated vehicles?  Do manufacturers provide such training before an owner is permitted to drive the car off the lot?  I don’t know.

Pilot certification in the United States – Wikipedia<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjxqK3O4KnRAhXpy4MKHeXvAxYQFggjMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPilot_certification_in_the_United_States&usg=AFQjCNFlA_BL6MikTOixKRawuBIZR7kRcA&sig2=5rRiUOC4QzMnXDNDR0i4hg>

"An FAA-issued pilot certificate is evidence that an individual is duly authorized to exercise piloting privileges." - analogous to a basic driver license.

"A type rating is required in a specific make and model of aircraft if the aircraft weighs more than 12,500 lb (5,700 kg) at takeoff or is powered by one or more turbojet engines. The Boeing 747, Beechcraft Super King Air 350, and the Hawker Hunter are examples of aircraft that require type ratings.”

Absent model-specific training, do we really want to depend on “drivers’ ed” given to high school kids as sufficient qualification for driving a Tesla once they can afford one years later?

On 1/4/17, 4:07 PM, "systemsafety on behalf of Tim Schürmann" <systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de<mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> on behalf of tschuerm at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de<mailto:tschuerm at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote:

Well, correct me if i'm wrong... but isn't the acquisition of your
'driving licence' the 'operator training'.
Are you, (so to say) suggesting one should get a specific training from
the manufacturer of ones preferred car?

Kind Regards
Tim

On Mi, 2017-01-04 at 22:58 +0000, Brent Kimberley wrote:
Operator training can be an issue.
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:20 PM, Mike Ellims
<michael.ellims at tesco.net<mailto:michael.ellims at tesco.net>> wrote:


I’m not so sure that’s a great idea. Our new Mondeo has a system to
that is supposed to detect “driver fatigue”. The rate of false
positives is positively maddening and it took ages to find the tiny
little “OK” button on the steering wheel so I could get rid of the &^%
$£ stupid message in the middle of the dashboard display (an LDC
simulating analogue dials).

The number of little buttons (and I mean little as in small) is in
itself is positively maddening...


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Tim Schürmann


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