[SystemSafety] Use of Formal Methods

[Derek M Jones]

David,

> Gergely, I suggest you ignore Derek's comment, he is well-known for his
> anti-FM views. I've looked at the survey and the questions make explicit

Perhaps we should run a survey.  Am I more well known for being anti-FM
or for having grounded views based on rational analysis of the evidence?

> provision for those who use FMs in research, and even for those who have
> only studied FMs.

But there is no way for those who don't use formal methods to complete
the survey.  Yes, there are tick boxes for this response for the first
two questions, but it is necessary to answer all questions before
proceeding to the next page.

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> David Crocker, Escher Technologies Ltd.
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> On 25/10/2017 14:18, Gergely Buday wrote:
>> Well, this narrows the survey to those who are using formal methods in
>> a real-world setting. Me, being an academic proponent of FMs cannot
>> take part in this. And industrial people will not praise a method over
>> its real value.
>>
>> - Gergely
>>
>> 2017. okt. 25. du. 3:05 ezt írta ("Derek M Jones" <derek at knosof.co.uk
>> <mailto:derek at knosof.co.uk>>):
>>
>>      Michael,
>>
>>
>>          I'm assuming that my views will not be of value in your
>>          survey, but I'd be interested to see the results if it is
>>          possible for you to release them.
>>
>>
>>      Formal methods proponents like guarantees answers.
>>
>>      Creating a survey that cannot be completed by anybody who does not
>>      use formal methods is a technique for removing pesky outliers
>>      from the measurements, which 'improves' the quality of the results.
>>
>>      --
>>      Derek M. Jones           Software analysis
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