[SystemSafety] Autonomously Driven Car Kills Pedestrian

[Nick Tudor]

The claim re lives saved / accidents avoided is an awful argument. The
human avoids a large number of accidents every time driving takes place and
there are no data for this.  There are no teenagers to my knowledge, for
example, who come home and say “you’ll never guess what Dad, I had a near
miss in the car on the way home today!”

On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 12:02, C. Michael Holloway <c.m.holloway at nasa.gov>
wrote:

> ... This revolution is coming whether we like it or not.  ...
>
> Well, if it should not be coming yet, it is our duty to do everything we
> can to slow it down to a reasonable pace. That's the point that Prof.
> Cummings was making in the WaPO article. There are a bunch of ridiculous
> claims being made by the self-driving car zealots, which are unfortunately
> being accepted by the US Congress. The most egregious is the assertions
> about the number of lives that can saved. That's not a reason it is an
> excuse. If saving lives was the motivation, there are far simpler ways to
> accomplish it.
>
> What we should be asking is whether the systems being employed in these
> vehicles have been developed correctly in accordance with ISO26262 or
> similar standard.
>
> The US Congress exempted self-driving cars from having to meet *any*
> standards. That should not have happened, regardless of whether this
> particular accident turns out to have been the automation's fault.
>
>
> --
> All the best,
> *C. Michael Holloway* (cMh)
> Senior Research Computer Engineer
> NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA USA
> bit.ly/cmhpubs
>
> Verba volant, scripta manent
> spoken words fly away, written words remain
>
> (The words in this message are mine alone;
> neither blame nor credit NASA for them.)
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