[SystemSafety] "Ripple20 vulnerabilities will haunt the IoT landscape for years to come"

paul_e.bennett at topmail.co.uk paul_e.bennett at topmail.co.uk
Fri Jun 26 20:36:55 CEST 2020


On 6/26/2020 at 5:07 PM, "Olwen Morgan" <olwen at phaedsys.com> wrote:
>
>On 18/06/2020 10:01, Peter Bernard Ladkin wrote:
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><snip>
>> I suspect because most of the people I talk with are engineers 
>... 
>> <snip> ... who don't really know much, if anything, about 
>programming 
>> language design.
>
><snip>
>
>I'm dismayed to see even a hint of a suggestion that software 
>engineers know aught but Jack Sh!t about anything.

Especially when a vast majority are nothing more than mere coders
with a penchant for salivating over each new language of fashion.

>The problems are not technical.

>We *already know how to prevent* these kinds of defects. The rot lies
>in the working culture (if one may call it that) of the great unwashed
>software engineer. They won't start doing any better until they start
>getting their arses sorely kicked for screwing things up. Strict product
>liability laws are needed to drag software engineering out of the ordure
>in which it habitually wallows.

Steady on Olwen. I am sure that some on this list truly deserve the 'software
engineer' tital, and I am sure their ablutionary habits are quite satisfactory.
Mere coders on the other hand......

>On a bad day, I'd favour public disembowelments and drownings in 
>cesspools - pour encourager les autres. ... Nevertheless, I am, 
>honestly, trying to restrain further scatological invective and 
>manifold 
>violent urges,

Perhaps on good days we might get more overview, review and adherence
to tried and tested standards with non conforming efforts sent back covered
in red ink, probably with a "See me later!" message.

A lot of software source code I have seen from others would immediately fall
into the rejected category. Mainly through lack of included documentation,
very high MCC scores and lack of a clear enough interface. 

Regards

Paul E. Bennett IEng MIET
Systems Engineer
Lunar Mission One Ambassador
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