<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Your version 2 is somewhat abbreviated...<div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><p>Version 2:</p><p>Aeronautical engineer: We've cocked-up the physical design.</p><p>Manager: No problem. We can fix it in the software.</p><p>Conscientious software engineer: F*** OFF! ...<br></p></div></blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><p>Manager: Let me take you to the door; your personal effects will be cleared out of your desk and sent to you and HR will make the necessary arrangements for your final salary/vacation to be paid.</p><p>I’ve been the conscientious engineer who has identified major project shortcomings in safety critical areas; I can assure you that from the prospect of employability it does not end well.</p><p>Andy </p><p><br></p></div></div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:02, Olwen Morgan <olwen@phaedsys.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/11/2020 15:37, Kinalzyk, Dietmar
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Olwen, Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I know the best solution is to have stable
physical behavior without electronics. Nose up compensation
for 737 MAX with MCAS is just a work around.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I would not compare avionics with automotive,
but the first A-class Mercedes passed the elch test only
with adding stability control like ESP system from Bosch.
Never heard any complains after it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>If a Mercedes crashes, it is likely to kill considerably fewer
than 200 people at at time. ... But consider the following
dialogue, which comes in two versions:</p>
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<p>Version 1:</p>
<p>Aeronautical engineer: We've cocked-up the physical
design.</p>
<p>Manager: No problem. We can fix
it in the software.</p>
<p>Lumpen software engineer: OK. we'll do it that way.</p>
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<p>Version 2:</p>
<p>Aeronautical engineer: We've cocked-up the
physical design.</p>
<p>Manager: No problem. We
can fix it in the software.</p>
<p>Conscientious software engineer: F*** OFF! ...<br>
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<p>Why should software engineers be asked, on a hiding to nothing,
to correct the errors made by engineers in other disciplines?<br>
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<p>... alas, too many clowns and not enough circuses ...<br>
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<p>Olwen</p>
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