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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hugues,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The issue I can see would be when you have a smaller aircraft and therefore the impact of mass would be greater.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I agree that inter-personal differences would also contribute to this risk.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Gareth<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>systemsafety <systemsafety-bounces@lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> on behalf of <hugues.bonnin@free.fr><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 8 April 2021 at 12:45<br><b>To: </b>Dewi Daniels <dewi.daniels@software-safety.com><br><b>Cc: </b>The System Safety List <systemsafety@lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SystemSafety] Miss vs Ms<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>hello<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>IMHO, I don't see how this difference could lead to serious problems, given that this consideration has only a meaning <i>on average</i> and not <i>on the actual case</i>. In fact there could be far more differences between two adults or between two childs than between an adult and a child.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hugues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=0 width="100%" align=center></span></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>"Dewi Daniels" <dewi.daniels@software-safety.com><br><b>À: </b>"The System Safety List" <systemsafety@lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Jeudi 8 Avril 2021 12:24:27<br><b>Objet: </b>[SystemSafety] Miss vs Ms<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>There's an interesting incident reported in this month's AAIB Bulletin, The AAIB is the UK's AIr Accidents Investigation Branch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><a href="https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aaib-investigation-to-boeing-737-8k5-g-tawg-21-july-2020" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aaib-investigation-to-boeing-737-8k5-g-tawg-21-july-2020</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It seems that a software update to the airline's reservation system assumed that any passenger checking in with the title "Miss" was a child. This resulted in a Boeing 737 taking off with 38 adult females misidentified as children. As a result, the aircraft weighed 1,244 kg more than was stated on the load sheet that was passed to the flight crew. The aircraft took off without incident, but the error could have resulted in a very serious accident.<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p><a name="SignatureSanitizer_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Yours,</span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:SignatureSanitizer_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE'></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dewi Daniels | Director | Software Safety Limited</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Telephone +44 7968 837742 | Email </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:purple'><a href="mailto:ddaniels@verocel.com" target="_blank">d</a><a href="mailto:ewi.daniels@software-safety.com" target="_blank">ewi.daniels@software-safety.com</a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Software Safety Limited is a company registered in England and Wales. 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