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    UN rule 157/ALKS features are often "traffic jam pilot."<br>
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    The presumption, at least in discussions I've seen to date, is that
    the driver will only engage it in traffic congestion because they'd
    otherwise be in too much of a hurry to let it keep working in free
    flowing traffic.  I suppose the general idea is that at slower
    speeds in a traffic jam you're less likely to see crazy unstructured
    things happen too suddenly for the car to react. (Not necessarily
    endorsing this; just summarizing.)<br>
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    Honda also released an ALKS feature (Japan is said to use
    essentially the same standard), but has produced at most 100 pilot
    production vehicles.<br>
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    I interpret this as baby steps to deploying highly automated
    vehicles.<br>
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    Kind regards,<br>
    Phil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/10/2021 6:59 AM, Dewi Daniels
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      <div dir="ltr">Peter,
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        <div>It reminds me of the queue assistant feature on my BMW.  It
          will steer the car automatically, but only if the car is on a
          motorway, its speed is less than 35 mph and both the driver's
          hands are on the steering wheel.  You might think it could be
          useful in road works, but no, it complains the lanes are too
          narrow. I did manage to use the queue assistant feature in
          rush hour traffic on the M42 the other day, though the
          amount of steering input required when driving at less than 35
          mph on a motorway is minimal in any case.</div>
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        <div>The main difference between this MB system and the BMW
          system seems to be that the driver is allowed to take their
          hands off the wheel.<br>
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          <div>I suspect these systems are being added so that the
            manufacturers can gain experience that can be applied to
            future, more functional systems.<br clear="all">
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 11:38,
          John Spriggs <<a
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            <div dir="ltr">"Autobahn-similar" probably refers to the
              relative lack of junctions or pedestrians, and the
              presence of a central barrier - the car just has to drive
              slower than other road users, like a certain supermarket's
              lorries in the UK.<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at
              11:27, Peter Bernard Ladkin <<a
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I read in my local
              newspaper this morning that Mercedes-Benz have got the
              worldwide first "type <br>
              certificate" for self-driving systems. It is called a
              "Drive Pilot"; it follows UN rule 157, and it <br>
              allows hands-free driving at a maximum of 69kph along
              "autobahn-similar roads". The article says <br>
              this covers quite a few Autobahnen, but I can't see how
              this can be -- the only 60kph limits on <br>
              Autobahnen are in narrow lanes past road works.<br>
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              "Type certificate" means that the German road vehicle
              authority has issued a permit for its use on <br>
              German roads. It will be in the S-class Merc and the
              electric Pendant EQS.<br>
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