[SystemSafety] How Many Miles of Driving Would It Take to Demonstrate Autonomous Vehicle Reliability?

[RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE)]

Safety critical software is not a question of time. It is a question of hunting bugs, in particular in uneasy access corners, using dedicated methodologies, techniques and tools.

Say that you forgot to take into account in your software the fact that every 100 years bissextile years are not as every 4 years, you will never find it whatever the number of kilometres, cars and hours you use the system between 2001 and 2099…

And whatever the good performance of your system during 99 years, there will be absolutely zero excuse for the consequent accidents …

A good way to challenge the designers of such systems would be to make their children responsible for the damages …

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From: systemsafety [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of Nick Tudor
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:27 PM
To: Matthew Squair
Cc: Bielefield Safety List
Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] How Many Miles of Driving Would It Take to Demonstrate Autonomous Vehicle Reliability?

This report has just come to my attention.  Stats based and an interesting read as it addresses most of the points made on this thread in one way or another:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1478.html

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On 18 April 2016 at 22:01, Matthew Squair <mattsquair at gmail.com<mailto:mattsquair at gmail.com>> wrote:
More that I don't see the value of multi million trip test programs that others might. ;)

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On 18 Apr 2016, at 10:13 PM, Peter Bernard Ladkin <ladkin at rvs.uni-bielefeld.de<mailto:ladkin at rvs.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote:


On 2016-04-18 14:03 , Matthew Squair wrote:

But I'd personally be comfortable after a couple of months of realistic road trials.

Hey, folks, we gotta volunteer!......... How you gonna line all those companies up, Matthew? :-)

PBL

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