[SystemSafety] Autonomous Vehicle Safety

M Ellims mike at ellims.xyz
Wed Dec 17 16:38:04 CET 2025


Interesting,

This came to my attention today though I haven't had time to look at it in
any detail...
 https://waymo.com/safety/impact/


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Prof. Dr. Peter Bernard Ladkin
Sent: 17 December 2025 15:14
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Subject: [SystemSafety] Autonomous Vehicle Safety

Bruce Schneier's latest CryptGram points to a 2016 paper answering the
question of how many driving 
miles it would take to demonstrate autonomous vehicle safety. Given that
there are some people on 
this list who have been dealing with such calculations for decades, I
thought it worth sharing the 
link and asking for comments.

I haven't read the paper. Elsevier wants $9.50 for 24 hours rental and
$55.20 for purchase. If you 
are affiliated with an institution that subscribes to Elsevier packages,
maybe you can get it at no 
cost (to you).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0965856416302129

On the other hand, since the first author is at RAND, maybe there is a
report to download at no 
charge. Indeed so, through

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1478.html

PBL

Prof. Dr. Peter Bernard Ladkin
Causalis Limited/Causalis IngenieurGmbH, Bielefeld, Germany
Tel: +49 (0)521 3 29 31 00

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