[SystemSafety] Move fast and break things

[Martyn Thomas]

On a quick first read, the Californian regulations do not appear to set
any criteria for the assurance of any stated safety level or probability
of failure.

Martyn


On 17/10/2018 16:49, Robert P. Schaefer wrote:
>
>> When will we see an equivalent consultation for "driverless" cars?
>>
>> Martyn
>
> The state of california does has  autonomous vehicle regulations:
> https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/02/california-dmv-has-new-regulations-for-self-driving-car-companies/
> https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/autonomous/auto
>
> And also has been collecting enough data over the years so as to allow
> academic analysis:
>
> IEEE/CAA JOURNAL OF AUTOMATICA SINICA, VOL. 5, NO. 1, JANUARY 2018
> Analysis of Autopilot Disengagements Occurring During Autonomous
> Vehicle Testing,
> Chen Lv, Member, IEEE, Dongpu Cao, Member, IEEE, Yifan Zhao, Daniel J.
> Auger, Senior Member, IEEE, Mark Sullman, Huaji Wang, Laura Millen
> Dutka, Lee Skrypchuk, and Alexandros Mouzakitis
>
> I’ve read the above report and find it interesting for what it does
> and doesn’t say.
>
> cheers,
>   bob s.
>
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Martyn Thomas
>> <martyn at thomas-associates.co.uk
>> <mailto:martyn at thomas-associates.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> At least the regulator is trying to state and to consult on the
>> certification requirements and allowable failure probabilities. Contrast
>> that with the absence of any such requirements at the moment, in the
>> case of cars that have an autonomous capability.
>>
>> When will we see an equivalent consultation for "driverless" cars?
>>
>> Martyn
>>
>>
>> On 17/10/2018 16:32, Olwen Morgan wrote:
>>>
>>> Wasn't it Henry Ford who once said that people can't even drive
>>> properly in two dimensions?
>>>
>>> ROTFLMFAO! - not at you, Derek, but at the arrant stupidity of
>>> regulators.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/10/2018 16:17, Derek M Jones wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Readers might wan to fit down while reading:
>>>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/16/easa_vtol_air_taxi_regulation/
>>>>
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